“Thus is the fallacy of the world ranking. Rose is no more golf’s version of Weber State than Woods is the game’s North Carolina, at least not the current version.
“It’s been an interesting couple of days. A lot of big names going out in some style,” said Graeme.”
When I was at UNC that student section was always full. I don’t care who the opponent was or what time of year it was or whatever… students would stand in line overnight to get tickets and we would show up on game day. In fact, when I was a student the big issue was that there were not enough tickets for the students, and now we’ve gotten so slack that the University is having to take seats back? Oh well, I guess I should take solace in the fact that there will now be more tickets available to the general public (including me), but this is still incredibly weak.
I never know how all of this stuff works out. The University did not really admit women until the late 60′s. Then when the Dean Dome was built, it almost seemed to make getting tickets too easy at first. Paradoxically, or not, it made going to games seem less important because getting in wasn’t as difficult and maybe you could actually see better at home now than in Carmichael.
I think we all hope for a good crowd, but….
Ultimately, people should go to the game if they want to, and if they think doing so is important. There are a whole host of equally worthy campus activities that arguably deserve just as much or more support, from drama to dance to music to political causes, and don’t forget non-revenue sports, which are often more sparsely attended.
“Ultimately, people should go to the game if they want to,”
Agreed, but it seems like the flip side of this problem is that there are a lot of students who want to go but can’t because they didn’t win the “ticket lottery”. Under the old system, where you had to actually stand in line to get your ticket, students who weren’t likely to use their tickets were weeded out of the process, increasing the chances that students who really did want to go to games could get a ticket.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with students wanting to do something else besides seeing the game. I just think its wrong for those students to take a ticket away from somebody who would actually use it.
I agree with that. There was an article in the Post about steps that Georgetown is taking to keep tickets out of the hands of Syracuse fans that was pretty interesting.
^I think the students need a pep talk from Stuart Scott similar to Scott VanPelts rant to Maryland fans……….
This x1000. SVP is the man. And he was right to call out fans. It would be great if the players would say something. I’m sure that would do more than Stu Scott. Maybe…
I was talking to a girl who is a Senior this year and has attempted to get tickets for every game and has received none through the current system. It’s the system that’s killing their attendance. The ones who want to go can’t get tickets. They need to go back to non-random distribution and let them camp out on the sidewalks to determine how many students really want to go to the games. I think they are likely to find more want to attend if they got rid of the random ticket distribution. It just penalizes those who want to go. This comes from someone who only missed 1 game in four years back when you had to stand on line or camp out to get tickets.
I’ve entered the lottery for every game since New Years and won the lottery once (Kentucky). The funny thing is I’ve gone to almost every ACC game just by walking through the standby line five minutes before tip. Sure, it’ll suck someday to walk all the way down to the dome find that every student ticket was used, but really, if you want to go to the game as a student it’s not like it’s a huge hassle. I don’t think it’s the system that’s the issue. It’s the students. But if someone wants to me to roll in at 6 AM to get tickets, I’m all for it.
I don’t know if it’s the remarkable history here, but really, the fans here seem more than a bit spoiled. I know the Heels were pretty bad last year, but the student turnout was embarrassing, what happened to supporting your team through thick and thin? And this year, with a team that’s making a great run at an ACC title, the upper deck student section still doesn’t fill up, or even seem interested. (Disclaimer: This doesn’t apply to the risers, or much of the lowers, which are absolutely phenomenal places to watch a basketball game).
All I know is when I lived in Boston and Jared Dudley/Craig Smith and co. made a run at an ACC title, Conte Forum was electric from every corner of the building. There are fan bases that would love to have the tradition and recruiting power that Carolina has. I hope that my fellow students realize just how much of a privilege it is to have a team that is competitive year in and year out. But if they can’t be bothered to show, I guess I’ll just keep taking their unused seats.
The problem is, you almost never hear about the stand-by line. I’ve used it to go to about half the ACC home games. I bet many of the students aren’t even aware it exists.
I have to agree. I think since UNC won the title in 1982 that fans have gotten a bit lackadaisical. That may sound strange, since UNC had already won one title back in 1957, but I think the 1957 title felt like a fluke until UNC won again in 1982.
At the same time, I like to think that UNC fans are more cerebral than most other basketball fans, but we tend not to be as diehard and cutthroat as some other fanbases, like Kentucky and Kansas.
William, I’m with you on the fact that it appears to me that the UNC fanbase is more articulate and cerebral than its counterparts. However, when it comes to the kids playing, I’m not sure that it matters to them. From their standpoint, I’d imagine they’d rather see an excited raucous fanbase, regardless of intellect. I could be wrong.
If there was some way I could get those tickets, that would be 1 seat they wouldn’t have to worry about and i’d be there every game. And it takes me an hour and a haft to get there. I want to go to the Maryland game tomorrow night but can’t pay over $100.00 for a ticket. Anybody want to help me out, I’ll be waiting…
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“Only Murton Plumlee was found under an actual rock.”
Wow…
(Hitting imaginary “Like” button).
P.S. Hansbroughs > Plumlees. Zellers > Plumlees. Although Plumlees > Wears.
^yeeeaahh, i dont know if even that last part is true.
This is perfect for Friday. Nice.
Now to get set for the turtles. Gary Williams is one of only three ACC coaches with much success vs Roy. Even the casual college bball fan could tell you who’s the first on that list, right? http://www.carolinamarch.com/2011/2/21/2005870/roy-williams-record-against-other-acc-coaches
It would appear that the PLUMlee family tree is a prolific scorer. It doesn’t seem to carry over to the current crop though.
Go Heels!!
Interesting golf mention of UNC and Weber State:
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/tour-insider/ranking-is-just-a-number-41730/
“Thus is the fallacy of the world ranking. Rose is no more golf’s version of Weber State than Woods is the game’s North Carolina, at least not the current version.
“It’s been an interesting couple of days. A lot of big names going out in some style,” said Graeme.”
This is absolutely pathetic:
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/voices/blogpost/9174604/
When I was at UNC that student section was always full. I don’t care who the opponent was or what time of year it was or whatever… students would stand in line overnight to get tickets and we would show up on game day. In fact, when I was a student the big issue was that there were not enough tickets for the students, and now we’ve gotten so slack that the University is having to take seats back? Oh well, I guess I should take solace in the fact that there will now be more tickets available to the general public (including me), but this is still incredibly weak.
^I think the students need a pep talk from Stuart Scott similar to Scott VanPelts rant to Maryland fans……….
I never know how all of this stuff works out. The University did not really admit women until the late 60′s. Then when the Dean Dome was built, it almost seemed to make getting tickets too easy at first. Paradoxically, or not, it made going to games seem less important because getting in wasn’t as difficult and maybe you could actually see better at home now than in Carmichael.
I think we all hope for a good crowd, but….
Ultimately, people should go to the game if they want to, and if they think doing so is important. There are a whole host of equally worthy campus activities that arguably deserve just as much or more support, from drama to dance to music to political causes, and don’t forget non-revenue sports, which are often more sparsely attended.
“Ultimately, people should go to the game if they want to,”
Agreed, but it seems like the flip side of this problem is that there are a lot of students who want to go but can’t because they didn’t win the “ticket lottery”. Under the old system, where you had to actually stand in line to get your ticket, students who weren’t likely to use their tickets were weeded out of the process, increasing the chances that students who really did want to go to games could get a ticket.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with students wanting to do something else besides seeing the game. I just think its wrong for those students to take a ticket away from somebody who would actually use it.
I agree with that. There was an article in the Post about steps that Georgetown is taking to keep tickets out of the hands of Syracuse fans that was pretty interesting.
^I think the students need a pep talk from Stuart Scott similar to Scott VanPelts rant to Maryland fans……….
This x1000. SVP is the man. And he was right to call out fans. It would be great if the players would say something. I’m sure that would do more than Stu Scott. Maybe…
I was talking to a girl who is a Senior this year and has attempted to get tickets for every game and has received none through the current system. It’s the system that’s killing their attendance. The ones who want to go can’t get tickets. They need to go back to non-random distribution and let them camp out on the sidewalks to determine how many students really want to go to the games. I think they are likely to find more want to attend if they got rid of the random ticket distribution. It just penalizes those who want to go. This comes from someone who only missed 1 game in four years back when you had to stand on line or camp out to get tickets.
I’ve entered the lottery for every game since New Years and won the lottery once (Kentucky). The funny thing is I’ve gone to almost every ACC game just by walking through the standby line five minutes before tip. Sure, it’ll suck someday to walk all the way down to the dome find that every student ticket was used, but really, if you want to go to the game as a student it’s not like it’s a huge hassle. I don’t think it’s the system that’s the issue. It’s the students. But if someone wants to me to roll in at 6 AM to get tickets, I’m all for it.
I don’t know if it’s the remarkable history here, but really, the fans here seem more than a bit spoiled. I know the Heels were pretty bad last year, but the student turnout was embarrassing, what happened to supporting your team through thick and thin? And this year, with a team that’s making a great run at an ACC title, the upper deck student section still doesn’t fill up, or even seem interested. (Disclaimer: This doesn’t apply to the risers, or much of the lowers, which are absolutely phenomenal places to watch a basketball game).
All I know is when I lived in Boston and Jared Dudley/Craig Smith and co. made a run at an ACC title, Conte Forum was electric from every corner of the building. There are fan bases that would love to have the tradition and recruiting power that Carolina has. I hope that my fellow students realize just how much of a privilege it is to have a team that is competitive year in and year out. But if they can’t be bothered to show, I guess I’ll just keep taking their unused seats.
The problem is, you almost never hear about the stand-by line. I’ve used it to go to about half the ACC home games. I bet many of the students aren’t even aware it exists.
I have to agree. I think since UNC won the title in 1982 that fans have gotten a bit lackadaisical. That may sound strange, since UNC had already won one title back in 1957, but I think the 1957 title felt like a fluke until UNC won again in 1982.
At the same time, I like to think that UNC fans are more cerebral than most other basketball fans, but we tend not to be as diehard and cutthroat as some other fanbases, like Kentucky and Kansas.
William, I’m with you on the fact that it appears to me that the UNC fanbase is more articulate and cerebral than its counterparts. However, when it comes to the kids playing, I’m not sure that it matters to them. From their standpoint, I’d imagine they’d rather see an excited raucous fanbase, regardless of intellect. I could be wrong.
If there was some way I could get those tickets, that would be 1 seat they wouldn’t have to worry about and i’d be there every game. And it takes me an hour and a haft to get there. I want to go to the Maryland game tomorrow night but can’t pay over $100.00 for a ticket. Anybody want to help me out, I’ll be waiting…